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than five days to go before falls right off the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session today and it's the first time the senate or house has met for business between christmas and new year's in more than four decades. president obama cut his hawaii trip short arriving in washington early today. for now, the house of representatives is not in session but we've learned those lawmakers are set to return this weekend. today the senate majority leader, harry reid, says we've just about run out of time. >> if we go over the cliff, and that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives as we speak with four days left after today before the first of the year, aren't here with the speaker having told them they'll give them 48 hours notice. i can't imagine their consciences, out wherever they are around the country and we're here trying to get something done. >> we're awaiting reaction from the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell. when that happens we'll go live to the senate floor but a spokesman for john boehner says senator reid should talk less and legislate more.
of the fiscal cliff. the senate back in session but so far all that is getting debated in washington is who is at fault. >> we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. >> millions of middle class families are nervously watching and waiting and counting down the moments. >> harris: and we don't have many moments left. tonight, the president back in washington. will they cut a last minute deal. and if washington can't get it done we could feel the pinch in our first pay check of the new year. snow and sleet making for some very dangerous driving. >> i have seen ten cars in an accident. >> i saw a jackknifed tractor trailer. >> i saw a lexus fly into a ditch. it is pretty slippery out there. >> and flying not much better. >> we got on the plane and sat for three hours. >> harris: tonight, a monster storm on the move. i'm harris faulkner in tonight for shepard smith. the impending fiscal cliff that stands to affect the first pay check you get next month unless, of course, lawmakers can find a solution. today the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said there is still time to work out a dea
to avert the fiscal cliff. >> barrasso said president obama is eager to go over the fiscal cliff. senator barrasso joins us. well, why do you say that? >> well, i think the president sees political victory at the bottom of the cliff in term of the increased tax money coming in that he can spend for other programs. i think he sees a lot of cut to the military which the democrats have been after for a long time and then he gets to do what he loves to do, is to blame republicans. my concern is that i actually see financial problems for our nation at the bottom of the cliff and that's why i want to get a solution. >> tomorrow do you think it's going to be the beginning of the emergency meeting at the white house, is it the beginning of a deal or is it a political drama? >> my concern is it may be a political charade by the president and harry reid and nancy pelosi. i hope it actually is the beginning of a deal because if we don't get it done now, we need to go and make sure that things get done so we don't raise taxes and taxes aren't raised for all these americans that are looking at it come
of the fiscal cliff. senator bayh, obviously we don't know what is your sense? no filibuster in the senate. you heard what lindsey graham said and do republicans pass whatever it is that the senate agrees to? >> i think the odds are some what better than 50/50, chris, that we get a minimal deal in the senate. not one that solves our debt problem as you pointed out earlier and this is all just a prequel to going over this again around the first of march over the debt ceiling. the real question is in the house of representatives and will it be enough of a compromise that enough republicans can vote for it to get that through the house. i put that at 50/50. >> chris: byron i think the most we can say or will be able to say if congress passes something is that they were able to stop the crisis that they created in the first place. but they will have done nothing, i mean it is really quite astonishing, to deal with the debt problem which is what the whole crisis was supposed to be about. and in fact if you extend the bush tax cuts for 98-99% of americans and have just the small automatic spending cu
's news headquarters, i'm heather childers. it's down to the wire for a fiscal cliff deal. senate leaders from both sides of the aisle vowing to scramble days before a new year's deadline to reach a plan or watch the economy go off a cliff. president obama says he's optimistic that they'll come to an agreement that will avoid across the board tax hikes and deep spending cuts. and here we go again, more snow headed to the the northeast, where a major winter storm already dumped several inches on inland areas. snarling roads, canceling hundreds of holiday flights. two powerful systems expect today come up the east coast by today, from south carolina to new york already issues severe weather warnings. i'm heather childers, now back to bulls and bears and for your latest weather headlines, log on to foxnews.com. you're watching the most powerful name in news. >> canceled, that's what thousands of ticked off holiday travelers are seeing on airport monitors this week. and while the nasty weather is to be blamed, toby says we should blame government regulations. >> here is a fact when it's a $27
wallace talks fiscal cliff with u.s. senators lindsey graham and diane feinstein. check your local listings for the times. >> arthel: with a possible agreement being worked on behind closed doors to avoid going over the fiscal cliff, one casualty could be the defense department. severe financial cuts could hit every branch of the armed services. peter doocy and minutes -- examines. >> he did not say the word sequester. it would automatically cut more than $100 billion from the budget next year, half from domestic programs programs and m defense programs. as the deadline draws close, experts are looking at them from a national security aspect and warning about their impact on the safety of our service members. >> it's going to affect the operational force that's deployed in terms of its ability to maintain its equipment, to get repair parts, and that forces deployed around the world. not just the force that's in afghanistan that's being reduced. it would impact on the training of the force and its preparedness to conduct other operations. >> white house officials are saying it's unc
. the house has passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff and senate democrats have not. now they are coming into the meeting and there is already acrimoney instead of reconciliation. >> part of the problem, i am sorry, the house passed two spending bills and ideas to meet the fiscal cliff and cent -- subject it to the senate. they have two over there . john boehner said let me get third plan b . everybody is like where are the republicans on this? they should have stayed firm on the ryan plan. it was the best . back track a year ago. this stems from the failure of the super committee that stemmed from the simpson-bowles commission failing. simpson-bowles. they got together and made the recommendation to president obama who commissioned that study can. >> kelly: and yet rejected it. >> that fail would and went to the super committee. they need to get together. >> julia: if you watched fox news channel yesterday. there is a map with red dots and that is the newspaper and the lower hudson valley of upstate new york published the addresses of gun owners and now as you were talki
of the situation, on the floor of united states senate they're not talking about the fiscal cliff. they're not talking about the debt limit. no. they're talking about intelligence, which on the floor of the senate is a bit of an oxymoron. and i will get e-mails on that. patti ann: all right. well, big developments coming out of syria. the one of the regime's staunchest allies is signaling a possible change in position. we'll tell you who it is and what it could mean for president bashar al-assad coming up. gregg: a surfer fighting off a shark after having part of his hand literally ripped off. we'll tell you how he managed to save his own life and how his friends helped to save him as well. >> they did a marvelous job as well hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios gregg: ♪ dominic the donkey ♪. gregg: it is not at sight you see every day. dominic the donkey going for a stroll in indianapolis of all places. giving a cop a tough time trying to catch her
fiscal cliff vote even if the senate does pass something tonight as you look at the senator from missouri speaking on the senate floor. that means the country is going over the fiscal cliff technically. as we have known congress to do before, you can have maneuvers by which they rewind the clock and if they go into tomorrow and they actually pass a piece of legislation they can rewind it to the point they need to be. some of the stipulations about the sequester and those are the across-the-board cuts do not kick in, until january 2nd so those are some of the things people are talking about. however, the biggest thing that everyone is talking about, are there really the votes to get this through? not only the senate, but, primarily, in the house of representatives? >> we know plan "b" which looked for tax hikes of earners over $1 million a year, so some of the framework, lowering to $450,000 joint filers so if you do not get $1 million passed in the house it is unlikely you will get $450,000 passed and the minority leader if the senate seemed near tears, senator mcconnell. it seems a mess.
. the house has already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. senate democrats have not. speaker boehner is in his home state of ohio today. the house gop leadershipship put out a statement yesterday saying the house has passed legislation extending existing tax cuts and putting -- delaying putting off some spending cuts and replacing them with other spending cuts, and they're urging the senate to do the same. jon? jon: molly henneberg there at the white house where we are getting down to the wire. thank you. for more on the efforts to keep the economy from heading over the cliff and the likelihood of reaching some kind of a deal in time, let's talk with susan -- [inaudible] chief congressional correspondent for the washington examiner. what are the chances here, susan? >> hi, jon. i think at this point we're just simply running out of time. we have only got a few days left. they're so far apart on what an agreement would look like. even if they weren't going to put together a comprehensive deal which everybody agrees there's simply not enough time for. if they were tryi
the fiscal cliff was 10 days ago. republican leaders in the house are waiting for the senate democrats to act. they want to see what kind of bill harry reid brings forward on the floor. he is looking at republican leader mitch mcconnell to say what are you willing to accept? so here we are. there is blame game going on. there is lot of maneuvering still. bottom line we'll probably meet this weekend heading up to the fiscal cliff and we'll see what the final offer is to see if they can push it across the finish line. gregg: mike, we're getting word the president has nod no meaningful conversation with anybody own capitol hill, especially john boehner and yet we do hear, that, you know, the seeds have been talking. that staffers have actually been negotiating. what do you hear? >> reporter: that's right. we heard there have been ongoing discussions, taking place throughout the christmas holiday but at this point republicans are saying they took a beating, if you will, trying to lead in the house, a deal that did not go very far. so they're saying, okay, harry reid, senate democrats, see what yo
. the big story here, the u.s. is officially going over the fiscal cliff. the senate at this hour has not moved the bill to the floor. until that happens, the house won't act. has signaled there will be no miscall cliff action tonight. tonight on the last "special report" of 2012, although president obama says the deal is in sight, what does it look like and will it pass either chamber? we will cover the negotiations from every angle and the the f fall-out. secretary clinton has been hospitalized because of a blood clot between her brain and skull but they are confident she will make full recovery. there is another taming report on security failures. send this back to new york and the colleagues with "the five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> juan: getting redty to party. the last segment we took a look at the serious moments on "the five" this year. now let's get to the good stuff. roll the tape. ♪ notice >> are we non- >> bob. >> sorry. ♪ ♪ notice ♪ ♪ >> hostess brand maker of twinkies. [ laughter ] >> lockness monster was a hoax. >> what? that is a hoax? it's not real? >> oh, man. i'
right off the fiscal cliff. take a live look at the white house where president obama called the top house and senate leaders from both parties to try and hammer out a deal avoiding the tax hikes and crippling spending cuts. remember analysts say falling off the fiscal cliff could drive the u.s. into another recession. more than a month has passed since the last time they got together. the obama administration called that mid another meeting constructive but there has been little to no progress. today lawmakers on both sides of the aisle tried to strike an optimistic tone. >> millions of americans are out there struggling and certainly they deserve a congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff, which is why the president has been working hard to bring leaders together. >> we can't continue to kick the can down the road with half measures. i think the market will respond in a permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> the chairman of the senate finance committee says it comes down to this meeting adding i wish them luck. it would be a great new year's present for the coun
on the senate floor. technically tonight the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. we'll talk about that and we'll have details with the panel coming up. this, of course, is new year's eve. the last day and night of 2012. hundreds of thousands of revelers around the globe expected to cram in new york city times square to see the ball drop and ring in 2013. you are looking live there at times square. ray kelly says times square will be the safest place in world tonight. celebrate all american new year's 2013 with my colleagues megyn kelly and bill hemmer. back again. you have don't want to miss it. where are you spending new year's eve? anything interesting? let me know on twitter. follow me -- @bretbaeir. interesting story. mexican drug cartels are looking north, but way north. halfway up to california to move their product. >> e, tortion to vicious crime and working with street gang. are mexican cartels strengthen their grip in california? >> yes. what concerns me is the political shift in mexico. the shift might make it stronger in california. >> change of political leadership south of the bo
in the fight over the fiscal cliff as the number two republican in the senate moments ago said there could potentially be a bill ready for the floor, but after lawmakers turned down several different plans to avoid potential tax hikes for every american what do we know about this possible bill? not much, and may be more importantly if it passes, what does it mean for your wallet on january 1st, that is if we fall off the cliff. matt mccall is president of penn financial group llc. the irs is today notifying employers on how much they will have to withhold from their employees' checks. let's go through each and every one of these tax increases if there is no deal, and we dive off the cliff. let's begin with the first one. marginal income tax rates ric rice for nearly everybody in america. >> over 90% of americans will be hit with higher taxes, and everybody talks about the wealthy getting hit the hardest. what i find fascinating is two-thirds of americans that make less than $20,000 a year will get hit with higher tax rates which will equal a gain of close to $600 more per year in taxes. if
over the fiscal cliff. peter doocy is standing by with the story. >> stiant leaders are said to be working on a last ditch deal. they could present legislation to senators tomorrow . majority leader hairy reid warns that whatever they come up with will be imperfect. >> days after a major storm. the northeast is getting hit with another one. this will not be a block well buster. but could make it tough on people ready to travel between christmas and new years. state of maine . stame-sex couples are saying i doportland held special hour to accommodate waiting couples and finally washington may be divide over the fiscal cliff but will be united sunday night around the television site. jim moran admits they will be watching another battle, washington and dallas play tomorrow night. we'll be voting sunday night and probably watching the skins cowboy gave in the cloak room. >> the title game starts tomorrow night . those are the top stories, molly, back to you >> december, and watching football matters. >> they will have a nice wet field since it is it pouring wet snow. >> are you
now say they are entering last-minute talks over the weekend to avert the fiscal cliff. so now it goes to the senate. we will go live to capitol hill at the bottom of the hour as again the focus will shift those senators to get a deal done. all of this having some effect on wall street. the markets finishing in the red for the fifth straight day. the dow sank 158 points, triple digits in trading today. closing below 13,000 for the first time in three weeks. the nasdaq down 256789 the s&p 500 down 15. marking its longest losing streak in three months. the negative trading session also wraps up the worst week on wall street since early november. adam shapiro live in our new york city newsroom from fox business network. adam, how will wall street react come monday? >> that is everybody's question right now. but already you can take a look at what's called the fear index. the volatility index. the vix. you can see it's at its highest level since july. and investors are nervous because we still don't know what the actual tax ramifications are going to be going into 2013. there is a real pot
senator thune. a fiscal cliff deal is a new way calculating inflation that would lower social security payments. democrats say they would do it as part of much bigger deal but it was off the table for the smaller deal they are working on. so democrats called it a poison pill. >> at some point, negotiating process, it appears there are things that stopped us from moving forward. i hope we're not there, but we're getting real close. that is why i still hold out hope we can get something done, but i'm not overly optimistic but i'm cautiously optimistic. >> chuck schumer from new york continues to say the things, meaning a deal, always happens at the end. >> gregg: we'll probably hear about the change of cpi which is basically a new way of calculating an index the cost of living and slowing down the growth of sbph like social security. we'll probably hear about. mike, thanks very much. >> arthel: we're going to the white house where president obama is holding firm to his demand and blaming republicans for the failure to reach a deal. the president also appearing on a political talk show th
on that not necessarily the talking place. and type is almost up for lawmakers to avert this fiscal cliff. the senate trying to make that a reality and they worked, we hear, throughout the weekend in hopes of hammering out a plan b or a plan c. >> juliet: peter doocy was knocking on people's doors and answering, saying what's going on? were they working through the night? >> reporter: we were told before a lot of the senators went home that their staffs were going to stick around and work all night long, but a senate aide with knowledge of the talks told us last night about 12 hours ago there was no progress, no major progress towards a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. we know that about eight hours from now right at three o'clock here in d.c., senator mitch mcconnell and senator harry reid, the principal negotiators from the senate are going to is sit with senators from their parties down and tell them the numbers they've agreed should be in the deal and if those meetings go well, they might be able to vote tomorrow in the senate, tomorrow afternoon. the house of representatives though would then nee
. senate leaders now holding crucial fiscal cliff talks on capitol hill rushing to come up with a last ditch agreement to avoid deep spending cuts and year end tax hikes affecting the lives of every american, i'm kelly wright. >> i'm heather childers in for jamie colby. the 11th he hour scramble after a crucial meeting on friday, between president obama and the leaders of the house and senate and urged lawmakers to urge them to do whatever it takes to cut a deal. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% of what they want, but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live in washington with the latest, mike. >> heather discussions are underway and i'm told we should not expect any news or announcements before senators are briefed tomorrow afternoon. after a meeting with the president late friday, the senate majority leader sounded cautiously optimistic. >> we have one meeting i
that would have addressed some of the fiscal cliff problems. they said let senate majority leader harry reid take over. there is definitely frustration in the house that it's come to this point this late in 2012 as we are heading over the fiscal cliff potentially. bottom line some some suggested there is not a tax problem in the united states, there is a major spending problem. >> history has a way of repeating itself. somehow washington never gets the message, and here we are 30 years later on the brink of another crisis on new year's eve, still addicted to spending money. >> madame speaker the american people are looking at congress with distain and rightfully so. with the deadline on the fiscal cliff only hours away we've failed to reach a reasonable compromise to move the economy forward and ward off painful tax hikes on the middle class. >> reporter: so everybody is waiting to see if the senate can reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. it's not entirely clear when the house would act. i talked to a key leadership aide who he said if the senate passes a deal we could certainly signal that we
. the senate is working on issues other than the fiscal cliff. the house doesn't return until sunday. president obama got back today but no significant progress towards a deal. democrats and republicans are fighting about process and issues. republicans want democrats to come up with a new proposal. house republicans say sign on to their proposal, keeping tax ritz rates where they are. when it comes to this impasse, both sides have taken to blaming one another. >> the house of representatives is operating without the house of representative. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. not allowing the vast majority of the house represents to get what they want. if the 250 would be brought up, it would pass overwhelmingly. >> we wanted an agreement. but we had no takers. the phone never rang and so now here we are five days from the new year and we might finally start talking. >> even if democrats and republicans, their leadership and the president, were to strike a deal on the fiscal cliff, it will take a couple days for the senate to work through it, the house to work through it an
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america off the fiscal cliff. let's go to capitol hill fox news chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel live with the latest. >> we are heading into a critical weekend as a final push is made to keep the u.s. economy from going off the fiscal cliff. after a late afternoon meeting with the top four congressional leaders at the white house, president obama offered this assessment. >>> i'm modestly optimistic -- nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jobs. >> sources say house speaker are john boehner deferred to senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider, accept or amend their plan. what s not expected to be included in any deal is increasing the debt limit, something democrats have wanted and republicans have resisted. >> we he haded a long meeting in the white house and it was constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. but that is what we hoped a lot. i think that the next 24 hours will be very
through with a fine tooth comb and pick through. senator sessions said the fiscal cliff is like three days away. we have to read it to sign off on it. >> that's the worst. no, this is not time. let's reform it and go about it with a squaple. meet axe hacks it across the board. either we are going off of the cliff or bad short-term deal that kicks the can down the road. we need to reform quick kick in the can. >> clayton: secretary panetta, set to take over him. white house looking at possible options and name that is bandied about is form are senator chuck hagel. critics slammed him of course and looks like the white house is trying to go in a different direction. others say give him a shake. go back to and see he is a fair-mind guy. >> i think he's the wrong pick at the wrong time. lack of support of israel and unwillingness to call the iran revolutionary guard a terrorist organization and he stepped back from action against iran and he was one of the biggest critics . one telling us that the surge couldn't work. that was always here from chuck hagel. that's not the kind of guy i want lea
mcconnell's office says he got a call from senator reed or democrats to talk about the fiscal cliff in about a month. they feel like they have not gone the extra pile here. >> the vice president getting a call today. what do they make of all of that? >> that could be a big deal. it shows the white house push back they are going to say look he has been pulling out all of the stops with the vice president in delaware came to the white house today working the phones we are told they had multiple conversations with senator mcconnell. a year and a half ago they talked about raising the debt ceiling it was joe biden a lot of years working with mitch mcconnell. joe biden got a nickname as the mcconnell whisperer as if he had a magic potion that is able to get through the noise. the whisperer goes back. >> any kind of whisper to get a deal. >> maybe a whisper will help bring a deal. >> i like that the flip side. >> we are only hours away from the markets opening now. what will be the final trading day of 2012. wall street is watching washington very carefully not only because of the fiscal cliff fig
for the top of the news of this special edition. no senate vote on the fiscal cliff tonight. that just from majority leader harry reid. they cannot agree. cannot agree on a counter offer at this point from the democrats. after a day of last minute negotiations to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts set to go into effect the day after tomorrow. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel very busy tonight. it's almost coming apart. >> that's right. there's a lot of dis agreement on both sides. republicans say they would like to see any tax revenue that comes out of a fiscal cliff deal used to pay down our trillion dollars deficits. retiring republican senator from arizona, jon kyl, said the democrats want to spend $600 billion and he believes the new tax revenue will be about the same am. to he says not solving anything. for from senator to an today. >> raising taxes to pay for new spending is not something republicans believe this debate ought to be about. it ought to be about reducing the deficit and debt. they're suggesting we want new taxes, higher taxes on people in this country to pay
. >> trace: i'm trace gallagher in for shepard smith it looks like we will go over the fiscal cliff at midnight. economists have been warning us the combination of tax hikes and spending cuts could cause another recession. now, president obama and the senate republican leaders say they are close to a deal to prevent tax hikes on the middle class. the trouble is, the house has gone home and won't be voting on anything tonight. >> for now, our most immediate priority is to stop taxes going up for middle class families starting tomorrow. i think that is a modest goal that we can accomplish. >> we all want to protect taxpayers, and we can get it done now. right now. >> trace: officials tell fox news agreement would let tax cuts expire on $450,000 instead of the president's cut off $250,000. extend unemployment benefits for another year it does not include any new spending cuts. of course, that's the other big issue in this fiscal cliff standoff. we have team fox coverage. mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. but first to ed henry at the white house. ed, it looks as if we are taking the
whatsoever. we have passed a bill to deal with the fiscal cliff. congressman, let me go through this. they haven't passed a bill in 1300 days in the united states senate. constitutionally, something by law they are required to do. they haven't done it. the president, 18 hours on the golf course, 20 hours in the air, plenty of time working out. now he races back to washington, you know, like the lone ranger on his horse silver in to save the day. this isn't serious. this is not a president that's serious about spending, is it? >> this is not about leadership. 1,337 days, harry reid hasn't pass add a budget. they have been in control the whole time. this fiscal cliff was predictable. we knew this was going to happen two years ago. and don't forget, these are the bush-obama tax cuts. all the president needs to do is actually propose some spending cuts. i think with geithner's admission that the debt ceiling will be burst through on december 31st clearly shows it's a problem. it's time to cut spending, not for now but future generations that have to pay this off. >> it seems to me, congr
republicans they have done their job. they passed a bill months ago to avoid this fiscal cliff. now, that bill has been come meetly ignored by -- completely ignored by senate democrats and by the president. number five the worse part of all there is nothing here that the president is proprosing that deals with the real clear present danger that america now faces. reckless borrowing, reckless spending generational theft that brings america to the point of bankruptcy. the president has given the country over $6 trillion in new debt. trillion dollars deficits as far as the eye can see and all he wants to fight for is higher taxes that will fund a mere 8 and a half days of government. frankly nothing but a pathetic disgrace. you the american people deserve a government that lives within its means. you deserve a government that is not obsessed with using your money to accumulate their power. it is time for americans to understand the simple truth of what is going on here. a truth by the way that an abusively biased news media just ignores. joining us now with reaction as america is on the brink rep
is determining what passed the republican-led house and democrat-controlled senate. fiscal conservatives say a smaller stop gap measure to avoid the cliff won't work. >> if we, in fact, do not use this period of time before right now, deal with the bigger issue and entitlements, if we just continue to kick the can down the road. the market will respond in a more permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> one thing leading republicans and democrats seem to agree on is time is running short. veteran senate democrat says there is a very small window to get something done. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? the closer we get to the end the less likely you will compress agreement in place that will have it pass. >> this struggle over the future of the country some suggest is not that different than what many americans face in their daily lives. >> this is no different than marriage. a lot of marriages fail because they fight over money. that i get heavily in debt and they fight over money issues. we as a nation are right now
tone for heading for the fiscal cliff in days. president obama and senators cut the christmas vacation short. the leader is happy to review what the president has in mind but to date they have not put forward a plan. late today, mcconnell expressed frustration. >> this is a conversation we should have had months ago. republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything that senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the essential. >> asked if he was going over the cliff, biden joked cliff? what cliff? this has been operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. not allowing the vast majority of the representatives to get what they want. they want them to return in case a deal is in the final hours. today, the u.s. is heading over the cliff. >> what goes away next week is the bush tax cut that they loathed since they went in place a secon decade ago. don't assume the president wants to cut a deal. he wants to see if he'll be blamed for it before they negotiate. they talk about the meeting tomorrow with the president and key congressional leaders. >> thank you. i
they need to come up with some kind of agreement before they go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year. the senate will be meeting today. this is the first time we have seen legislative business conducted in the weeks between christmas and new years since 1970. the house come back as well but nothing yet. the other thing to consider here the two key players in all of this president obama and republican house speaker john boehner. as far as we know the two of them have not really been talking. the lines of communication are theoretically open but both of them seem to be standing their ground. one other factor to consider here is something we just heard from the treasury secretary tim geithner telling us we are rapidly approaching the nation's debt ceiling. we could hit it by the end of the year. there are accounting tricks we can use to prevent us from hitting that by the end of the month. it shows you how complicated this is getting. one other factor that was going to become part of the grand bargain if we ever reach grand bargain. right now they could be looking for a stopgap measure.
that he thinks this will fiscal cliff matter comes down as one white house meeting two hours from now. another top senate republican said a short time ago that he was calling on president obama to lead. >> the president is not a senator anymore. he's a president. just as president reagan worked to deal with tip o'neill and bill clinton and president eisenhower, we need leadership on not just taxing rich people, but we contact them and it wouldn't help the medicare fiscal cliff. greg: others are skeptical, noting that high-profile meetings are for show often times and all about tactics. we expect the president will try a stopgap measure extending middle-class tax rates, extending unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans, do some small spending cuts now, but not entitlement reform. an ally of the white house and the house of representatives offered this. >> this is not for show. it is a last-ditch effort by the president to bring the congressional leaders together to try and get at least a small package. a small deal together before the new year. in order to avoid some of the
to the fiscal cliff. there are some signs of hope this morning. and it oob thanks to republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. peter doocy live in washington with the very latest. peter, i guess they reconvene 1:00 tomorrow which leads them oh tons of time to avert that fiscal cliff you are hearing from administration officials down here that republican the senatech mcconnell the is trying really hard to figure out a way to avoid the fiscal cliff public. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the expwrort leader can make to his conference. >> at yesterday's white house meeting, president obama did not offer negotiators anything new. he just tried to sell them on the same plan he outlined last friday, being called plan c. since the president's plan a and speaker boehner's plan b both failed to gain traction. plan c would extend middle class tax rates and we're told the senate wants
from going over the fiscal cliff? fair and balanced, joining us live is senator from delaware. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you, shannon. >> s it fair to say that the democrats and the white house in particular just hasn't really laid out a plan that is legitimate, detailed and something they could vote on? >> that is fundamentally untrue. what matters to everybody watching and our country and our future is that both sides republican and democrat, house and senate, white house included have failed to pull together a comprehensive big deal that would allow us to make significant progress towards cutting our deficit is, stablizing our debt and dealing with the things we need to invest in to strengthen our economic recovery. to suggest that this is really only the democrats fault misses the point that over the last two years over a whole series of different incidents we had problems getting the senate controlled by the democrats and the house controlled by the republicans, and the president aligned along one common vision and common plan. proposals by the president in the an
're working bills within the fiscal cliff bills. mr. reid, go to work. you've had years to lead this senate. go to work on that. i think we have principled leadership. >> i agree. >> often timesn0 i'm worried and the real issue is spending. it's a spending problem. the issue just came up. >> right. >> so where do we go from here? congressmanvbñn gomer? it's been put in the senate in their hands wex heard from hairy red today. moving forward. i understand the president is reac republicans in the senate. but they don't have the rightbw to originate constitutionally spending bills from there. where do we go from here? >> well, either the senate will do their constit/2ajal duty of taking a bill that originated in the house, and dealing with the issue and pass their version of it. then it would go a conference committee where compromise gets worked out.sqç hairy reid is becoming the cliff diver here by saying we're not going toq#éy let our house, senate'>pzg house, funct. we're going to dive off the cliff and blame the republicans and every ledge down the way. >> gentlemen. good to see you.
the fiscal cliff. we are within 72 hours of the deadline, and tonight the new developments. in the wake of the shooting at sandy hook elementary, gun sales are on the rise. what is driving the spike? and the growing number of teachers who are looking to arm themselves. also, one man's trash becomes a child's musical treasure. you'll meet the children's orchestra that plays instruments recycled from garbage. >> i'm harris falkner. they are actually negotiating on capitol hill just as economic analysts say we are about to go over the so-called fiscal cliff, the punishing combination of higher taxes on just about every worker in america and deep spending cuts particularly to our military. top lawmakers are calling in staff members for meetings on this saturday. right now we are told senate leaders are working on a potential deal. still our journalists on the hill are being told there will be no official proposals or votes until tomorrow at the very earliest. the time line qoo -- could not be tighter. we will begin seeing lower tax rates expiring and federal aid for things like unemployment
they are trying to put together a plan to help us from all going over the fiscal cliff. we are within 72 hours of the deadline, and tonight the new developments. in the wake of the shooting at sandy hook elementary, gun sales are on the rise. what is driving the spike? and the growing number of teachers who are looking to arm themselves. also, one man's trash becomes a child's musical treasure. you'll meet the children's orchestra that plays instruments recycled from garbage. >> i'm harris falkner. they are actually negotiating on capitol hill just as economic analysts say we are about to go over the so-called fiscal cliff, the punishing combination of higher taxes on just about every worker in america and deep spending cuts particularly to our military. top lawmakers are calling in staff members for meetings on this saturday. right now we are told senate leaders are working on a potential deal. still our journalists on the hill are being told there will be no official proposals or votes until tomorrow at the very earliest. the time line qoo -- could not be tighter. we will begin seeing lower
with two days left before the fiscal cliff or shouldn't he sit down and hammer out a deal with the senate republicans and house republicans. do you think a deal gets done? >> i do think a deal will get done. i think it might january 1st. i think we will briefly go over the fiscal cliff. the president worked on the issue months and months. the entire "crisis" is an issue of congress' own making . he was taping the meet the press on saturday. house republicans were cozy and doing nothing on the fiscal cliff. john bone bone took himself out of the negotiations and abdicated responsibility and said he would dole with whatever the senate and president had come to. i happening there is a lot of good proprosals on the table and something will get done, too. >> dave: it appears that senate republicans came a long way in sharing their desire for no taxes raised on the wealthy. $550,000 thres hold for couples is a significant compromise. but can they get anything through the house in terms of getting republican votes today? >> i don't think that will get through the house . the house was elected to
and senate seats and mitt romney rarely discussed the fiscal cliff and we look back on this conversation and we think gosh it would have been nice if we had a plan that had been laid out other than what mitt romney was saying we will deal with this if a piece meal fashion. we come to the table with that as the reality. nonetheless, why is anybody leaving town? why did the president leave town for vacation and the republicans and democrat is. if this is as serious as people say and i think it is serious. it would seem even if the tea party is terrible people and they he don't want to agree with anything. they are are there and you have to deal with them. everyone should say in town. have the little christmas eve dinner. stay in town and figure this out. and the tea party they believe in certain principles and they are fighting for the principles. they think it is a spending problem and not a taxing problem. i tend to agree with them. republicans are probably going to get a worse deal on the table as a result of what happened. nevertheless, the president has to deal with the cards that are
of perfection. >>> the big story today is the final four days to avoid the fiscal cliff. the last minute wrangling, the house in recess ready to come back to session sunday night to await a deal from the senate, which is in session. house republicans say they passed two bills already. on top of the fiscal cliff, there is the milk cliff, which could add to the weekly shopping bill in a big way. early next year, fight about raising the debt ceiling. after the scathing report on september 11 attack in benghazi, libbia, we thought that four mid-level government workers had taken the fall for the security failures at the state department. it turns out that is far from the case. we'll explain. it's been a year since the tornado flattened their church. but only now can the rebuilding begin. all because of red tape. grapevine, why being too attractive cost a woman her job. "special report" from washington starts at 6:00 p.m. eastern. now back to new york and "the five." ♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "the five." shop in saint paul has been warned to stop selling candy smokes with bubble gum cigars a
cliff, you guys pass a bill. he hasn't done in three years. they can pass in the senate give it to the president, then nobody's taxes are going to go up. prices averted then, they candlg spend time after the new year negotiating tax reform, çd living within our means. why don't they just do that? >> well, they could. if they want to demonize the house. without doing anything, in the way of legislating. and sean, if you look back at ceiling bill back a year and a half ago had a super committee. you and i knew it wasn't going to work. one of our republican senators made up a pro pose yl to raise taxes and two senate democrats reported to have said wow. this is a break through. we can get a deal now. we'll be able to work this they go talk to president obama and hairy reid, come back to say, sorry we're not atloud work the deal. they didn't want to deal then. they don't want a deal now. it worked out well for them not to allow a deal last time. they blamed us last year. them and it worked and got go over the cliff? blame republicans. not let the senate pass anything. we get awa
that the senate controlled democrats is working this week, they are not working on fiscal cliff matters and the house won't even be back to work sunday two-days before the end of year deadline. theoretically these guys have time to get something done here. it is also possible at today's meeting at the white house may be simply window dressing. >> see what happens ten hours from now. time now to take a look at who is talking and this morning we are hearing from charles krauthammer. >> last night on hannity he was talking about the looming fiscal cliff and the president's approach to negotiations. krauthammer giving his take on why a deal has not been reached yet. >> it has been very clear from the beginning that he had no intention to solve the fiscal issues. he has been using this and i must say with great skill and ruthless skill and success to fracture and basically shatter the republican opposition, the only redut of the opposition is the house. his objective from the very beginning is to break the will of republicans in the house and create an internal civil war. he has done that ri
. >> reporter: meanwhile some senators are suggesting the only option now to avoid a fiscal cliff is a scaled-back deal to stop tax increases for most americans. we just hear heard heard ed elude to that. we are joined my jaime. what happens if the president and congress fail to reach an agreement on averting this so-called fiscal cliff? >> well, we go over it. you know, maybe the analogy of fiscal cliff that everyone is using might not be perfect because that doesn't end everything. there will be negotiations afterwards. in fact republicans who think that we are going overlook to the debt ceiling hike that will have to happen some time in the beginning of next year, perhaps at the end of january, or early february, at the point where negotiations will really pick up again, because they'll have some leverage there. there are reports out that some agencies, the defense department, that are facing these cuts as a result of the fiscal cliff are planning already ahead knowing that there will be negotiations afterwards if no deal is reached, and believing that some type of remedy will occur. they
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